Episode 33 Transcription
– Tarang Patel
Hello and welcome to the Dr. Money Matters podcast show where we discuss unfortunate financial topics that never covered in school. I’m your host Dr. Tarang Patel.
Welcome to another episode of The Dr. Money Matters podcast. In this episode I talk with Dr Amy Shah, an allergy specialist in Arizona and good friend who’s turned her passion for nutrition and health into a few solid side games. Before I introduce me I’d like to talk a little bit about why so many doctors are looking for side gigs. It seems crazy that people would undergo about 11 to 17 years of post high school training and then want to look for an additional job after they’ve worked after they worked so hard to achieve the primary goal. It speaks to this. It speaks to the dissatisfaction disillusionment and loss of autonomy that so many in medicine feel now. The Wall Street Journal had an article this past weekend about physician burnout and I’ve addressed the topic on prior episodes but we didn’t get into medicine to have our expertise undermined or questioned by those with less training were also less likely to be allowed to use our creative sides in medicine than generations past. And so some of the desire for side gigs maybe as a part as a way to try to express that. Finally in this era of living in the day and age of side gigs it’s just more common and acceptable thing to do. And also with cheap and easy technologies to help us start our businesses it also facilitates getting involved in more side gigs. Succeeding though is another story and that leads me back to my guest today who is succeeding. Amy Shah is a relative pioneer for physicians and using social media to expand her reach and develop a personal brand.
It’s been great to watch her develop this nontraditional endeavor over the past few years. She’s definitely been an inspiration and source of encouragement as I started my own podcast. In this episode we talk about how she developed an interest in nutrition at an early age. Her mindset about developing your passion into a viable business rather than just a hobby. Some of the fears that she faced while trying to develop her status as an authority on these topics. Her advice for those who are starting this process and her goals for the future of her various endeavors in addition to practicing and as an allergist she does personal wellness consults has developed products including supplements and ear buds that mold to your the shape of your ear called Sound Mole’s in conjunction with physician at her medical practice. Also she’s worked with Bobby Brown in the cosmetics industry and is now working with Genexa, an organic medication company. She’s also starting to do physician webinars and live person coaching to help those physicians interested in starting their own journey in social media and developing sidekicks. OK let’s get started with my interview with Dr. Amy Shah.
Welcome to another episode of The Dr. Money Matters podcast. My guest today is Dr. Amy Shah, a friend of ours from Phoenix who has developed a thriving side gig in the wellness field. Welcome to the show.
– Amy Shah
Thanks. Happy to be here.
– Tarang Patel
So I want to I wanted to talk to you because you’re one of the inspirations for many of us locally to kind of get branch out of our traditional aspects of medicine. And you were one of the pioneers at least you know that I can think of of the physicians in the wellness field. But before we get into that let’s talk a little bit about your background about how you got into medicine and your analogy. So tell us how you ended up choosing that specialty in college.
– Amy Shah
You know when you have all those late night deep discussions with your friends I’m not sure if you guys see this you actually did it with a lot of my guy friends who you know those. What am I going to do with my life. Talks or thoughts. And I came up with nutrition because I thought well it’s how food affects the body. So I ended up going to Cornell which has one of the best nutrition programs in the country. And lo and behold I realized that nutritionists make like 30 thousand dollars a year. And it was it. And you could be a dietitian which was like very similar. And there was all these classes you would have to take. That had nothing to do with health in the body. So I decided that I had to think of a different way to incorporate nutrition because I definitely wanted to be in a challenging career. And I just felt like this is not going to get me where I want to go. So I decided to kind of the premed route where you can combine nutrition health biology and society that was like it was my own major. So I did that and then went to med school because I was like oh this is perfect. I’m a calling like I’m going to combine nutrition and health and do all this stuff. And of course as you know like you know day one of your med school there is nothing to do with nutrition at all. There is not even talk about food and is at least in the way that I thought would be impactful. So I knew that there was something there but I couldn’t decide. And then when it’s time to pick what we wanted to do I picked internal medicine because I thought that was kind of you know the way it actually is deciding between internal medicine radiology. I applied for both actually. I interviewed for both specialties absolutely was because I think I was like a little bit disgruntled with clinical medicine. But then once they interviewed for radiology I realized that was not maybe what I would want to do for the rest of my life only because I’m a people person and I felt like maybe that for certain.
Most radiologists at least at that point.
It seems like you know it wasn’t the right fit for me
– Tarang Patel
Plus it’s not very conducive to nutrition because we’re sitting around a lot and we’re eating you know the snack food of the doctors lounge.
– Amy Shah
I already had thought about my sidekick back then and I was like You know I can do radiology and then on the side they can you know do all this nutrition stuff that was like my plan if I ever did radiology.
– Tarang Patel
Wow. You were ahead of the curve.
– Amy Shah
Yes I did internal medicine and died because I did I was in the Harvard hospital system and it was I thought it was pretty malignant but I guess there there make way more malignant programs and were doing a lot of ice. You and I still really interested. But what I was picking my and fellowship I definitely was thinking along the lines along the lines of nutrition where can you do that. And I didn’t pick G.I. because that was anxious for my husband. For those of you who don’t know is a gastroenterologist and he had decided like day one that he was G.I.. And so there was not going to be. It was a little too much you know competition or strange it would be too much of an overlap. So I picked him up. So that’s basically I knew all along. I mean there is everybody who knew me knew that I was nutrition and health was my thing. It was like from the time I was 10 years old I’m not sure why or what it was. But sometimes as we all see with our children sometimes they have these passions in life and they’re just looking for ways to express them. So that’s basically the long version of the story. And as you can imagine once they started a private practice I had this amazing Private Practice opportunity where I was the only Allergy Immunology specialist in a group of 34 doctors who are ENT and so I had a great referral base and it was amazing. Private practice except that I didn’t do even 1 percent nutrition. Like not even I mean there was nothing there was like maybe one second of talk I was just like a machine, a factory. And so that’s that’s really what prompted me to start thinking outside of the box to think like OK how can I start to do this without completely shutting down my clinical practice. And also up selling you know kind of like that larger need. The other reason was I feel like were such were so tied to these insurance companies as they’re basically determine our our wealth our you know our patient care our costs. And I just felt like wow.
If insurance decides tomorrow that they’re not going to pay for these like five codes because I’m so super super specialized like I said I’m done you know and that was another impetus for me to say I need to lay down the groundwork for when the when the medical system as we know it changes.
– Tarang Patel
Right. Right now let me ask you then specifically on that point when when did that thought occur to you. Because that’s a very it’s a it’s a smart thing to think about but I don’t think a lot of a lot of physicians especially while they’re in medical school training you know think about that type of thing.
– Amy Shah
Well it wasn’t until I was a partner in my practice where I really started to think OK I need to lay down the groundwork for my plan was a 20 year plan. My plan was when my children are you know 15 to 20 years. My children are in college. I don’t want to depend on insurance as you know or the system as we know it for my career. And so it was like I wanted to lay down the groundwork because I know that it takes many years to become independent of me of insurance based medicine so I basically was like let me just start you know start so.
– Tarang Patel
So you took what was a lifelong interest passion in nutrition and you decided to you know you were trying to incorporate that into your practice but in reality you know it was pretty difficult to do.
So you started branching out kind of separate from your existing practice. So talk to me about the time span when you started doing that. How long it’s been about now and and what it was like when you were first starting out.
– Amy Shah
So 2010. Actually like I think of 2012 when I started just thinking like I said that’s when I made partner and I started thinking OK now I have power over my schedule so I can feel like carve out an afternoon here and there to really work on something different. And I knew that I wanted to do something in wellness medicine nutrition but I also knew that if it was going to take over if I was going to switch like I was someday going to switch careers. Then it would have to make money because it couldn’t be just like a passion On-Site passion. I mean I was always nice how. I want to make it into more than that. And so the first thing that happened is when I was reading all these books I was reading I was listening to like books in a car or whatever and I listened to four hour workweek. I’m sure you are embarrassed. And it was so inspirational. And then I listened to the podcast with you know Rich Roll. I don’t know this until our podcast. I thought. He’s like a very inspirational lawyer turned vegan and he has. And he had talked interviewed this. Mind Body Green founder his friend and he said Oh anyway with you that we’re are into wellness you must know mind body green dot com. This is 2012 when I was like literally just started. And they’re always looking for doctors or professionals to write for them. So literally the next day in-between patients I wrote a post and I sent it to like submit at Mind Body Green Dot Com and it was just like a cold post about something patients should know before they go to the doctor or whatever. And I think a couple days later I got an e-mail that said oh your post has been accepted and it really like open these floodgates at me like I was like oh my god I’m I’m going to start doing something. This was like going to be my outlet. So I started writing for them and quite often like once a week in between patients I would just create a post and I would send it. And that was basically how this all started.
– Tarang Patel
So what kind of challenges did you have when you first started. And then you know how did you know you were actually going in the right direction?
– Amy Shah
I had every fear that I talk when I talk to people now it’s every single fear that everyone has.
You know it’s all about what with what we think or perceive that other people are going to think of us. Like what if someone reads my article and thinks it’s bad. You know that kind of thing. And also really in medicine you just feel like what if I’m breaking some rule like it’s like I was doing a secret thing and tell you what about it because I didn’t know if it was right or if I was doing the wrong thing or if I was going to get in trouble by I don’t know God knows who I am and it was all these irrational fears that I look back at them like that was holding me back for two years from like 2012 to maybe like 2014. I literally just put I said post for Mind Body green. Like every week or every other week without telling anyone about it. And I didn’t want to like I didn’t want to rock any boats at work. I didn’t want to tell my friends. What if they made fun of me. I don’t know. I was just scared.
– Tarang Patel
Understood.
– Amy Shah
Dipping your toes into something that you’re not really sure what’s going to happen. 2014 Mind body green approached me and said hey a lot of people are asking how to contact you. Do you have a website. And I said No I don’t have a website. And so I looked up you know how to create a website and like five minutes or you know those videos whatever.
And I created a website and then I sent it to them and I said Oh in case they actually didn’t have an e-mail lists originally which I’m kicking myself for but I think 2015 I created an email list on my Web site. And you know Mind Body Green was blowing up at that point. And so I would get you know thousands and thousands of people coming to this like five minute WordPress website and signing up. And it was like really I didn’t realize what a big deal was back then. Because to me it didn’t make any sense like I didn’t know what I was going to do with it anyways. I had no business plan at all I just knew that I was setting up a foundation for something.
– Tarang Patel
And I think that’s a lot of how this starts and and you like I said you were one of the earlier people that I knew.
– Amy Shah
Yeah
– Tarang Patel
in this type of field we see a lot of it now on social media where you know people are describing kind of some of the things that you describe that you felt early on disenfranchised with the traditional practice model looking for outlets looking for their interests and so they’re kind of going through it you know and looking for things that you have already been through. And you know they’re kind of doing it now. So it’s always nice to hear from someone who’s gone do it.
But you know it doesn’t go without challenges and like you said you’ve you’ve experienced some of those and some of the same fears that we all experience when when we’re kind of branching out of our traditional roles that we’ve established in medicine.
So one of the things that I think you posted on I was imposter syndrome and this this is it was a really good post that got I think a lot of people that talking about it and subsequently heard other people would kind of mentioned the same thing.
But what is that
– Amy Shah
it’s like you know when you enter this world of wellness for example or nutrition any any world where there was no formal nobody gave me a degree and wellness hard like nobody told me like I was like we study 25 plus years to become a physician.
And I feel comfortable with the role of physician. But when it comes to expert expert in something in this world I really felt like. Who am I to tell patients what to eat or what to do or who might right. In 2015 mind body green actually awarded me one of the top women to watch in wellness and I really felt it then I’m like wait like how is that me. Or are they talking about someone else. And I would look at these other people and think they’re so amazing. But then when it came to myself I felt like there was I was trying to be someone that you know didn’t deserve the attention or the status. And I think that happens to so many people because I think that we think that maybe we’re always looking for somebody to give us permission. When I talk to physicians all the time and I talk to them about wellness or doing things like this. They ask me you know so what certifications did you get or who, there’s a lot of that imposter syndrome feeling like you don’t feel like you’re going to be able to do it or you deserve to be there.
– Tarang Patel
And I mean you know it’s funny because you spend so much time like you said 20 plus years in training to get your you know your medical degree residency fellowship things like that. And yet we’re still always looking for that additional validation, certification or whatever. And the reality is is that there’s no one better qualified than you or you know physicians in general to to speak on these things. A lot of other people who are not who don’t; who lack these credentials are talking about it.
– Amy Shah
I see the same thing. I always say that you know we think that there is somebody going to like what I for my world. There’s these made up. And I hate to say it but it’s true. Like you know they made up certifications in certain you know things that can be integrative, it can be functional or it can be obesity special and all of them are just someone’s opinion.
It’s literally like one head doctors opinion on how he thinks that nutrition or wellness or whatever lifestyle should be at it but that doesn’t have to be your opinion. And if it’s not you don’t need to go through that certification. So I’ll tell people like you know learn from them like I read those books, take those courses but you don’t need to pay them three thousand dollars so they can give you a stamp like this is not. You know what I mean we we can make our own decisions we can read the literature ourselves we can read the books ourselves. So I think that was a big big realization for me and I still struggle with that I mean I think we all struggle with that I’m sure you do and your podcast for all when people ask you for or think your authority on something you definitely inside feel like wow how did I become the authority on something that I barely knew anything about a year ago or something like that.
– Tarang Patel
Right. Right. No it’s true. And you know I know I talk more about financial stuff but I similarly in the finance world there’s there’s a lot of certifications there’s a lot of pseudo certifications and you know yes I didn’t train 20 plus years for that but I can read a book I can learn things and exactly you know I feel as qualified as some of the people out there not not all of them. But you know I can speak to certain basic things. And so you know I think that I think at this point most of us physicians have spent so much time training that it is you know we’re used to that mentality and then I talk to people about you know they talk about getting their MBA or you know I’m like… No you don’t have to have an MBA, you can start something without that. So it’s great that you did that and you went for it and you know success or not and early on you know you push through it. And now you are you know very successful in this and you work within you’ve been featured in the national media and you work with celebrities. When you started did you. Did you foresee any of this kind of success that you’re having?
– Amy Shah
No I thought that when my kids go to college I will do this side thing.
You know I went to a conference when I was in Fellowship like a financial conference for fellows and I remember the guy asking the group like how many of you close to retirement are planning a second career or are pursuing it already and the entire group. Almost everyone who was close to retirement age or retirement raised their hands like they people want to do so much more they wanted to have a second career. They were done with that. And I kind of felt sad that a lot of these people waited till their retirement age to pursue something maybe they were wanting to do their whole lives and they’re waiting till they’re retiring. And so that was also another thing I didn’t want to wait till I was about to retire to write a book or do something and while writing a book was always something in my mind because I thought that that was the only way because at that time the Internet was just blooming you know in our college and medschool years. So I thought oh I’ll write a book one day about all the things that I have thoughts about and so on.
That was the plan. The plan was I never thought especially because like I said I have this private practice that I had to work to get into a partnership. And then I was a partner and I have a lot of responsibilities. Clinically and so I never I’m actually in a place really difficult place at this point. Because I have two kind of very demanding things happening at the same time and it’s really hard for me to divide my time now.
– Tarang Patel
You know I want to I’m going to get back to that in a second. But one of the things you said early on was what the fear is that everyone goes through is like you know I spent all this time and energy becoming a physician.
You know it’s not the normal model that we were you know we’re in that pathway for where you do your residency or fellowship. You go into practice you become partner and that’s that’s the end point. And you know you so you’re kind of branching away from that a little bit. And one of the things you bring up and I think a lot of doctors face this is you know what do what do my colleagues think did you. Once you started doing this I know you said initially you were kind of keeping it you know kind of quiet and you were just doing it.
Have you know now that you’ve gotten a little bit more success a little bit more publicity about it. How has the feedback been from your physician colleagues?
– Amy Shah
Really good actually. So all those irrational fears are really are irrational because honestly when all of this started happening and I started to travel more and do more collaboration with these well-known people they and my colleagues were actually extremely supportive of course there’s definitely some questioning of you know what does this mean for the future kind of thing but very little of that mostly. It was so in fact one of my colleagues pigs Dr. Altman and I actually created a product. And I know you know about it but called Sound Molds because we knew that. Now they have created the other product, the supplement product. I kind of know how to create products although I know I did not know how to create a physical product it was a very very steep learning curve. But he was definitely super interested and in collaborating with me because he has lots of aspirations as we all do you know to do cool things outside of medicine and we should. And so it was it was very very supportive. And I’m I can’t say that it’s been 100 percent like anything right life. Nobody nobody’s going to support you 100 percent. Honestly it didn’t bother me as much as I thought it would. I thought I would be so insulted or you know. But really it hasn’t. It’s such a small amount of the feedback that I’ve gotten that it maybe you know makes me feel bad for one minute. But really that’s about it.
– Tarang Patel
No that’s good I think.
I think at least now it seems like more people are kind of open about their feelings and their and their just in general disenchantment with the traditional model of medical practice and I think more and more people are are open to you know branching out and doing something on the site or just completely changing you know the model in general. So you know with that being said now you were talking about how how you know you basically are in two full time situations. Now one with your traditional allergy practice and then with your wellness practice. So how are you balancing that.
– Amy Shah
Yeah good question. Figure that out. Luckily our kids go to school that’s quite long a day long. And so what I’ve been really doing is bashing my work on you know two options a week. Basically I’ve been figuring it out and slowly cutting down my clinical hours just so I can accommodate some more of the Wellness stuff. And I think that this year has been a lot better than last year and I’m doing a little more on the weekends and evenings just to fit it all in and I’m doing a little more travel which is fine because it’s you know it’s fine.
And I really pick and choose. I haven’t been going to everything that I can go to just picking and choosing. You know what. What works for me. The amazing thing about online world. Like for example if I do a wellness consults or collaboration almost everything I do now is online which is amazing. Of course I love interacting with people in real life but all the stuff I can do at home or on the computer on my phone in between. You know when you have like that downtime between patients like I do I take up every minute like there’s no more online shopping there’s no more like it to be like practising you know all that stuff is done like I have to I have to do all my work during that time.
– Tarang Patel
Gotcha. Well I mean you’re doing very very impressive job with it.
So let’s let’s talk about you know like you said a lot of other physicians kind of have aspirations of kind of branching into these type of fields and a lot of them specifically are looking into the wellness sector. So what would your advice be to someone who you know just starting that process.
– Amy Shah
My advice is just to go for it. Go for it. I think you have to match your interests with your strengths and the things that are going to make you money. I think that the biggest hard part. Unless you’re just doing it as a hobby and if it is just as a hobby. More power to you. Great. That’s amazing. But if you’re doing it as you know a you’re putting down the groundwork for a future career or site career. I think that you really need to see OK where’s my strengths where’s my interest and where is the where’s the money in this in strength and interests like where’s that intersection between all of that. Because I think I found that. Otherwise you’re just so in disarray. You’re doing like a million different things. I was like writing for these free blog sites but then I was you know doing this. And once they started to say OK where am I going to concentrate my efforts. I can grow this as a real business. That’s when it started to become clear to me like what I can say yes you I can say no to. And that’s helped a lot.
And that’s where I think you know just start doing what you love and then start to make that congruence that that area where all three meet
– Tarang Patel
that’s that’s good advice because I think a lot of people it’s kind of a vague notion of what they want to do but they’re not really you know they haven’t hammered down details so you really do have to look at it especially like you said if you want to do it as a business you have to do a really good critical analysis like you would do for any business that you’re starting.
– Amy Shah
Yeah for example.
I realize that you know people need to know that the places where you’d actually make this into business are you know smaller it’s a smaller pool of things you can be doing when you’re doing it just as a hobby or a side thing. It’s a huge pool of things that you could be doing but you just have to decide what you want from it. If for me it’s like this I’m studying I I want to do things that set the groundwork for me. It’s like investing in myself because I know that that investment will pay off in the future. So anything I do in this world like this wellness world I want to make sure that it it’s adding to that investment that groundwork that I’m setting and not just kind of like you know wasting 3 hours a day. Right.
– Tarang Patel
Right. And I mean you’ve you’ve done a really good job you’ve developed a brand now. And so you kind of need to make sure that anything you do subsequent to this will add and not detract or you know is contributing to your brand. So I think that’s that’s a very good point. Since you brought up investing this being a financial podcast. Yeah we have to talk about it. So how has Has doing this as a side gig and turning into a full on business impacted you financially.
– Amy Shah
Yes so that’s I’ve thought about that such a good question because there’s you know of course from afar. It’s really it’s gotten me. There’s many many avenues of revenue that I never had there’s so many different investment opportunities that I’ve had because of this for example I’m on I think you know because we were out at those events the Genexa board.
There’s a few things where I’m actually part of these companies and there’s a lot of potential there.
So it’s really exciting and there’s lots.
I think it’s more about than money because I don’t think that it has not yet replaced my clinical income. And I think that. But for me it makes me feel that I feel free like I feel like I do not need insurance based money anymore. If I go if I decide tomorrow that I want to do this as a full time job I took I definitely could. However I feel like a sense of you know commitment to my patients, my practice, the doctors that I work with and I kind of enjoy clinical medicine I feel like I get so much inspiration from there. So I think that my goal is to balance the two so that there are two independent revenue streams that I don’t have to depend on any one of those to you know satisfied
– Tarang Patel
Yeah I think that will I think that’s the thing is it doesn’t.
So a lot of people get with the you know the mindset of oh am I going to you know make money doing this.
And that’s not the only mindset. What you described about you know the freedom that you feel. Yeah that’s that’s that’s you know you can’t put a price on that. Now that being said you have to do it intelligently like you’re describing that you know you have certain you have to approach it like a business you have to do certain things that make sure that you are getting something out of it. But but it’s you know whether you replace your income full from full time clinical practice is probably not the point. The point is that you’re diversifying your revenues like you said and that that gives you a more stable foundation for the future and you’re not susceptible to those risks like you talked about earlier about the coding changes and things like that. So I think that’s something that you know people don’t pay attention to enough and whether it’s in the investment world whether you’re talking about investing in stocks real estate you know passive income from other ventures. I think you know these are the concepts that apply to starting your own business like this.
I think you know
– Amy Shah
yeah just being independent like feeling that if that insurance system change completely tomorrow what is your fallback option or what are you going to be doing. That’s going to make you happy also unsatisfied. So that was kind of that might. And it’s funny I think it’s a very unique. There are some people who have no aspirations outside of mainstream medicine and they just want to do things as a hobby. And that’s totally fine. I think you have to do what you’re passionate about and why you feel like even if there was zero money what you would do just for fun. But I love having the opportunity to do something that I really am passionate about. And it also could be a. Side slashed fallback career for me right now.
– Tarang Patel
Absolutely. I think that’s a great way to approach it and you’re doing a really good job with it. So let’s talk one. One thing you’ve you’ve inspired a lot of us to reach out of our traditional niches and kind of you know branch outside of it but in general you also are an inspiration amongst your followers and then with a lot of your friends locally about just you know becoming more healthy and improving our lifestyles that way.
So a lot of physicians in Arizona I’ve noticed have kind of you know started becoming a little bit more healthy. I myself have have have tried to incorporate some of your intermittent fasting tips but you know I think that a lot of physicians particularly those in training you know still even though we preach healthy lifestyles don’t don’t actually practice it. What would be one tip that you would you would recommend for a physician to kind of just improve their health?.
– Amy Shah
I think I didn’t realize that there is such a big connection between the mind and the body because we don’t really talk about that much in training in med school.
And I think that when I started looking into nutrition wellness and got health present I realized wow it’s not just this weird thing about stress and the brain and the talks you know the things that you are thinking about. And I think I really understood the mind body connection so much more and that’s why I’m so much more into yoga and doing these.
Doing all these like stress relieving activities because I think that physicians as physicians we feel like that’s a waste of time. Our what you know that has nothing to do with your body. And so I think tuning in to your mind your stress levels if you are a person who doesn’t sleep well and then you’re type A and you drink a ton of caffeine like you are not doing your body and he got you need to find at least a 10 minute thing that you enjoy as a release every day. And you know you’ll notice your health improving just from that.
– Tarang Patel
Perfect perfect. I think that’s that’s very good advice. Amy, I want to thank you. Doctor Dr. Shah. I want to thank you for participating in this podcast.
So I want to tell you you have a lot of social media outlets and a lot of endeavors. Let’s talk a little bit about where the listeners can find you and then talk about a little bit about what you are doing in the future as part of your your your different ventures.
Yes so I and most commonly found on Instagram because I’ve decided in the last year and this is a good piece of advice for you too and all the people it’s just don’t dip your toes in the pool or just jump in. You know like hey I think that for a long time I was trying to dip my toes and I just I’m like it is what it is I’m just going to put it out there. And so Instagram is @dramyshah
– Tarang Patel
Link-Up on the show notes for all these.
But yeah go ahead.
– Amy Shah
And then I have my Facebook group. Desi Carb Fix . then I have my Amy Shah MD Facebook page. And I’ve been doing a lot more.
I started actually just in the last few months doing these mastermind’s for physicians and wellness practitioners because there’s a lot of common topics that come up. One of the biggest thing is law. Like what are the laws around wellness. We’re giving it based on the internet in general. And the second big topic that we talk about is products like how do you make a physical product. How do you make an informational product. How do you do consulting. A lot of these things that I’ve read all these mistakes so many mistakes I can’t even tell you.
I’m going to basically break it down for people because it’s really not that hard especially if you have the right connections
– Tarang Patel
good good and we can we’ll be able to find all these on your Web site the links to different groups and things. Perfect. Perfect. Well thank you. This was informative I think the listeners will get a lot out and I think a lot of it you know the inspiration is the most important thing that you provide and I think that you know it was one of the earlier people in this field but there’s still plenty of room so I hope she inspires you too to you know to kind of branch out of your traditional fields and go forward if you have an interest in whatever venture outside of medicine.
– Amy Shah
Yeah. Happy to help OK.
– Tarang Patel
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